Comments on: Spaniel trials? http://www.absolutegundogs.com/2011/05/17/spaniel-trials/ Absolute Gun Dogs Wed, 27 Jun 2018 15:53:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Russ Poolhttp://www.absolutegundogs.com/2011/05/17/spaniel-trials/#comment-167 Russ Pool Sun, 28 Aug 2011 03:00:30 +0000 http://www.absolutegundogs.com/?p=434#comment-167 Dan, since our talk a couple of weeks ago about this fall's trials I have given a lot of thought to Cocker trials and Springer trials. I think it is an interesting topic. I don't really know enough about the different styles of hunting but it might make sense for a combined trial. Something that might make even more sense is to combine weekends. Have Springers run Friday and Saturday and have Cockers run Sunday and Monday over the same courses or for a variety, courses that are within a short driving distance. With this being done, as you mentioned, many more pros who work both types of dogs would be more likely to travel to both venues. This would help the clubs and the entries. That way, maybe I could see Strider run in his home trial! Just kiddin'....Russ Dan, since our talk a couple of weeks ago about this fall’s trials I have given a lot of thought to Cocker trials and Springer trials. I think it is an interesting topic. I don’t really know enough about the different styles of hunting but it might make sense for a combined trial. Something that might make even more sense is to combine weekends. Have Springers run Friday and Saturday and have Cockers run Sunday and Monday over the same courses or for a variety, courses that are within a short driving distance. With this being done, as you mentioned, many more pros who work both types of dogs would be more likely to travel to both venues. This would help the clubs and the entries. That way, maybe I could see Strider run in his home trial! Just kiddin’….Russ

]]> By: Don Banduccihttp://www.absolutegundogs.com/2011/05/17/spaniel-trials/#comment-72 Don Banducci Wed, 18 May 2011 20:11:56 +0000 http://www.absolutegundogs.com/?p=434#comment-72 Springer trial participation was down considerably this past spring-at least in California. Adding cockers to the mix could beef up attendance while making trials more financially viable-a common concern among clubs putting them on. I'm for anything that expands people's positive perception of the spaniel breeds-and helps to improve the breed. I think springers and cockers running together would do this. Springer trial participation was down considerably this past spring-at least in California. Adding cockers to the mix could beef up attendance while making trials more financially viable-a common concern among clubs putting them on. I’m for anything that expands people’s positive perception of the spaniel breeds-and helps to improve the breed. I think springers and cockers running together would do this.

]]> By: Danhttp://www.absolutegundogs.com/2011/05/17/spaniel-trials/#comment-71 Dan Wed, 18 May 2011 19:48:43 +0000 http://www.absolutegundogs.com/?p=434#comment-71 Who didn't love the A-Team, and Mr.T? Who didn’t love the A-Team, and Mr.T?

]]> By: Jamie Fittererhttp://www.absolutegundogs.com/2011/05/17/spaniel-trials/#comment-70 Jamie Fitterer Wed, 18 May 2011 14:02:32 +0000 http://www.absolutegundogs.com/?p=434#comment-70 Well.....I can't say much about this topic being a Retreiver guy, but I will say that I think I would lean towards having them run together. Now my experience with trials is very green. I do think both breeds are wonderful hunters and should run against each other. I think it would also help not having such a clicky seperation with the two groups. I like hunting over Springers, Cockers, and Retreivers as long as they are good dogs and work hard. To me, it is about the experience of the hunt, whether trial or real, if the dog can hunt, hunt them all together and see who performs the best. Now on to the real subject here!!!!!!! That Mr. T shirt is way too funny. I thought you were geeeky growing up in Biz but I truly had no idea of just how much! Love teh Buck teeth. Hope to see you soon and keep me informed if you are comign through Bozeman anytime soon. Well…..I can’t say much about this topic being a Retreiver guy, but I will say that I think I would lean towards having them run together. Now my experience with trials is very green. I do think both breeds are wonderful hunters and should run against each other. I think it would also help not having such a clicky seperation with the two groups. I like hunting over Springers, Cockers, and Retreivers as long as they are good dogs and work hard. To me, it is about the experience of the hunt, whether trial or real, if the dog can hunt, hunt them all together and see who performs the best.

Now on to the real subject here!!!!!!! That Mr. T shirt is way too funny. I thought you were geeeky growing up in Biz but I truly had no idea of just how much! Love teh Buck teeth. Hope to see you soon and keep me informed if you are comign through Bozeman anytime soon.

]]> By: Rooster Cockburnhttp://www.absolutegundogs.com/2011/05/17/spaniel-trials/#comment-69 Rooster Cockburn Wed, 18 May 2011 11:58:42 +0000 http://www.absolutegundogs.com/?p=434#comment-69 Well they run them together in Canada and a Cocker won one year....In the last National English Springer Spaniel Shooting Dog Championship they let both Cockers and Springers run with no problems ... In New Zealand I judged them running together and both breeds were equal in ability in rabbit trials... I see no problem with it all.. Getting it done would be the problem .... lol... Well they run them together in Canada and a Cocker won one year….In the last National English Springer Spaniel Shooting Dog Championship they let both Cockers and Springers run with no problems … In New Zealand I judged them running together and both breeds were equal in ability in rabbit trials… I see no problem with it all.. Getting it done would be the problem …. lol…

]]> By: Barb Boettcherhttp://www.absolutegundogs.com/2011/05/17/spaniel-trials/#comment-68 Barb Boettcher Wed, 18 May 2011 03:26:32 +0000 http://www.absolutegundogs.com/?p=434#comment-68 Hi Dan, I love this topic! Having discussed this many times with both cocker and springer people I think there would be support for mixed breed trials. Why not? Springers can hunt in the woods as well as cockers. One of our favorite trials is put on by the Missouri Headwaters club in Montana. It is run in the woods! It is fun, challenging and mentally stimulating for the dogs. How boring must it be to run in bland grass fields all the time? The arguments or concerns against are mainly from the Cocker owners. They are concerned that by having to compete against Springers they will lose their cockerness. It is up to the judges to be educated and judge the two breeds on the merits not choosing a cocker because it runs like a springer and vice versa. We are heading to our first Canadian trials next month. Looking forward to see how it 'works' up there where the two breeds run together. Happy Training and Trialing, Barb Hi Dan,

I love this topic! Having discussed this many times with both cocker and springer people I think there would be support for mixed breed trials. Why not? Springers can hunt in the woods as well as cockers. One of our favorite trials is put on by the Missouri Headwaters club in Montana. It is run in the woods! It is fun, challenging and mentally stimulating for the dogs. How boring must it be to run in bland grass fields all the time?

The arguments or concerns against are mainly from the Cocker owners. They are concerned that by having to compete against Springers they will lose their cockerness. It is up to the judges to be educated and judge the two breeds on the merits not choosing a cocker because it runs like a springer and vice versa.

We are heading to our first Canadian trials next month. Looking forward to see how it ‘works’ up there where the two breeds run together.

Happy Training and Trialing,
Barb

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